I don't Know Anderson, but Camacho often mentioned Glenn Abrescy. I never had a chance to see Otto's photo. While Camacho often talked about his teacher Otto, I don't remember him sharing any photos with us. We once had a party or two, but there was no history or photos, more just sort like a get together fellowship.
Yes, I saw his photos, but first as John Camacho I did not realize it was him. I thought maybe it was his father until I read your post. I did one photo and i knew it was him in a group photo. The photos are quite remarkable. I had never seen Otto before until I reached your site. As you can imagine, it was quite fascinating to see for the first time. There was no email contact on the site, so I used the forum in hopes of contact. I believe I did sent an email via a Who-is lookup whichs provides an email of the owner of the site.
Interesting after 12 years, you daughter reaches black. That is a long time. I also reached this in 10 years, but I also went much quicker, and took short cuts with many other styles. I think when Camacho was with Bill, this was probably around the time he came to America. I think it was mid 70's. During the day, Camacho taught a girl he hooked up with, his girlfriend, and he taught her a lot during that time. They had shacked up not far away in an apartment. She left him after a year or so. This was about the time that Kim and Bill split up as well.
I stayed with Camacho, as even Bill said he was really good, and Bill was learning from Kim. However the school belonged to Bill, and this eventually led to problems. When they split Kim was pretty down about the breakup of their friendship and I think also losing his girlfriend. When he opened the school across town, some friends and I had went over to his school during the day. The door was open, but no one was in the building. It was an amazing huge building, we were amazed at how big that building was. I guess Kim had big plans.
After time, we heard someone enter through the back door. It was Kim, he came in and greeted us, but he was smoking a cigarette. I said, what is this? He said don't worry guys, its only temporary. He was right, I never saw him smoke again in all the years I have known him. We all have our vices I guess in our times of need, but after Camacho got married, he was good provider for his family. However I don't think he ever had any children of his own, as he was stepfather to those kids when he got married.
It was not long after that he met his wife and got married. I know Camacho was naturally versed in eastern way of life and religons, but his wife was Christian and not long after he converted to Christianity. He become a devote family man, and practicing Christian going always to Church on Sunday. He never pushed his new conversion and new beliefs on his students, but he did from time to time confess his new family life and religion, which is ok, cause he only told people briefly his beliefs, but he never preached to people to convert them.
He kept Kuntao as a business and a art to be taught according to the old ways. While he had Christian beliefs, he had no problems sharing the old system of beliefs from other religions that compliment the arts in harmony and spiritiality. I believe on occasions he connected things like Zen, Hinduism, Buddism, Taoism, or even Confusiacism, when he thought he wanted to connect something in his teachings and methods to compliment that. He also believed in Chi, and often talked about it. He said he had it, but never in a way like Tai Chi masters, although he said he knew some forms from that. I think he had something special, but not to a huge degree like you see on those few masters that have it shown on some rare Youtube videos.
He didn't talk about Bruce Lee much and I think I heard Otto's name more in his teachings. He was a vertical puncher all the way. He loved that stuff, but his tradional Karate punch like the hard styles use was also very impressive. His short punch methods were very interesting, fighting extremely close up, and his use of rolling and learning how to fall and get back on your feet were very interesting. He was big on sweeps, and butterfly kicks, but probably his best were those single and multiple vertical punching he used. He had a classic side kick, and also used Yoga stretches in his warmups.
Camacho was also good with short swords. When I met him, he was a handsome vibrant looking man, who liked to cultivate somewhat thick bushy hair styles which were part of that time and generation. He was a pretty hip guy and the girls loved him. He was quite a character to say the least. The last time I saw him was when he attended the wedding of a friend of mine. At the time I had already moved away to the mountains, but I saw him at the wedding.
Camacho fought in a few matches, but he really didn't need to prove anything. One match, he fought this guy who was well known, a real killer type guy from Tae Kwon Do. A big solid heavy white man with legs that kick like a horse. That guy was known to really hurt people. Well, when Camacho fought him, the guy came at him as usual with that cross over side kick that he was so famous for hurting even some really big men.
Camacho just got down real low, and that kick just went over the top of him and missed, but while he was going over the top, Camacho punched him in the groin at the same time and scored the point. Someone took a photo of this and I saw that photo. Well, that guy got so angry that he told Camacho if he tried that again, that he would kill him. That guy was just a really nasty mean guy, but he never pursued Camacho outside. At the same match, when it was over, I saw one guy who tried to call out another guy outside and the other guy pulled out a gun. Some of those tournaments were really nasty places as far as what kinds of spirits were in the air. Lot of bad karma at those places sometimes.
Kieth Linderman was also there and Joe Franco I think. Actually I think it was Joe Franco who brought Camacho to my attention. Joe Franco trains navy seals, and we were like best friends. He lived down the street and was also one of Camacho best students. Joe is on this page below with his guns and horse photo.http://tinyurl.com/yksafsc
Joe started me on Wing Chun, and also taught me a lot before he went into the Navy. Joe and Keith were good friends. Both had attained black belts. My room mate also obtained black with Camacho and fought full contact under Camacho training using the short punch system. He once fought a thai kick boxer which he did quite well inside, until the thai managed to push him away and land a solid kick to the solor plexus. However the point was proven about fighting inside.
Another guy I used to train also knocked out guys in full contact matches, so I could say I had some good years there, where I could say I had a pretty good zenith which I was happy with my abilities. I could beat both of these guys, so I knew my skills were good. However, Camacho left Atwater and went back to Turlock, and I moved to the mountains and took up cycling, which was much needed after I had dislocated my knees many times. I spent several years building my knees back as cycling is known as a good rehad sport for runners and skiing injuries and such. The mountain lifestyle lends itself, at least for me, more to the outdoors, but I still do Yoga execises, various aspects of what I learned with him as well as calistinics and weight training, cycling. I work at the bike races as a photographer, so life changes. However, I still remember some good times we had together.
Perhaps more later, I need to go work now, and I can't think of much more right now.